Kenosis Conversations Episode 1: Pain Is Pain: A Therapist’s Origin Story—from ER Wake-Up Call to Lifelong Service

We’re excited to share the first episode of our new podcast, “Kenosis Conversations”!

In this first episode, we explore how a life-altering moment in a hospital hallway changed everything for Kenosis owner Christine Turo-Shields.

We trace her journey from a STEM-bound high schooler to a career in social work and addiction counseling—sparked by seeing a friend after a suicide attempt. Along the way: navigating class and cultural divides, early volunteer work in residential treatment, a mentor’s lesson that “pain is pain,” imposter feelings in practice, and how faith and providence shaped a vocation.

If you’re curious about becoming a therapist, working in recovery, or simply how we connect across different life experiences, this story is for you!


Interested in seeking counseling from Kenosis Counseling Center (or joining our team)? Call us at (317) 865-1674 or send us a message on our contact page.

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